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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:44 pm 
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I just rechecked it. If you're aimed at the End_level squares, you must turn 20 or 30 degrees to the left to activate the harpy. It spawns soon after you use binocs and hit the space bar, no other keys are needed. The harpy trigger is fairly close, so the angle where it works is wide. Or maybe it's more than one. Oh, this is with no aiming after you enter binocular mode.

I have a savegame which always works, with Lara already embedded. Are you patched or unpatched?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:32 pm 
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Patched I guess, since I'm playing on WXP and W7.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:36 pm 
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I play unpatched on WinXP. Do you have 10 or 15 saves available?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:16 pm 
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16 I think. (0 through 15)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:42 pm 
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Ok, that's definitely the patched game. Give me a few hours to come up with a working patched save.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:17 pm 
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OK! Here's a save for the multipatched game that leads to ALT within 5 seconds:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2k99w3tjabvj1ak

And here's what the screen looks like as you go to binoculars (for some reason, the back wall of the alcove is invisible):
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The dark triangle along the left edge is the left corner of the alcove. This looks a bit different, in-game the dark edge of the triangle points right at the lower-left corner of the image. But it doesn't have to be exact. In my video of the ALT she's turned a couple of degrees to the right.

Anyway, embed Lara so she's all the way to the corner, turn so she's like the screenshot, and use binocs. Wait a second, hit the space bar, wait another second and hit Roll, and within 5 seconds you should see the FMV for the next level. I always see some thin white lines for an instant, followed by crickets chirping, followed by a close view of Lara's head in the FMV. It may not work this quickly every time, try it again. It was mostly 5 seconds for me, but once it was 20 seconds.

BTW, I loaded Jeff Reid's multipatched saves from Stella's site, and started from a Pharos, Temple of Isis save so I could enter Cleo's Palaces with the usual jump-by bug.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:48 am 
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Even with your savegame, I couldn't get it to work. Strange! :(

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:42 pm 
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Disappointing I'm sure, but also very interesting. What is different about your setup (or mine)? If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you describe your computer and game version as much as you can? I have to admit I probably don't know enough to figure anything out, but you never know. My machine is a Dell XPS400, 6.5 years old, Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz, Processor Speed 2.92 GHz, Memory (RAM) 2048 MB, Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Operating System Version 5.1.2600, and I have SP3 Windows updates. (I found a help screen that had all that, I'm sure I don't need all that detail from you). I got a TR4 game as soon as it came out, I guess that was 1999.

I'm glad you already have an ALT method just a little farther down the corridor. That also makes it clear that ALTs are possible in your play of the level, which is a big help.

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Acer Aspire 5734Z, less than 2 years old, Pentium dual-core T4500 2,3 GHz, 3 GB RAM, 64-bit Win7. My TR4 is the version which has KV5 "on the rocks", but there were never any changes to palaces2.tr4...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:51 pm 
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Thanks, nothing leaps out at me, I'm afraid. Ewil, what Windows did you use?

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